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Posted: 01/26/2005 at 12:47pm | IP Logged Quote GroovyDave

I'm working on redoing the Falcon map from issue 103 of Dungeon in
Dundjinni format and will post when I am done. To that end I have made
a few objects that some might find of use.







Edited by GroovyDave on 01/27/2005 at 8:05am


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Posted: 01/27/2005 at 2:27am | IP Logged Quote Cecil

GroovyDave,

Please post the objects as you make them, but I think you'll have to refrain from posting the published map. I recall there being quite a discussion on posting WotC or other copywritten maps. (Unless, of course, you own the copyright.... )
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Posted: 01/27/2005 at 7:04am | IP Logged Quote GroovyDave

Well, its my rendition of thier map, not a direct copy. Its an original, if
derivative, work. I can't imagine a court of law saying that I can't paint a
picture of a Campbell's Soup can. However, if you say I can't post it I'll
abide by that. Just seems a little over cautious is all.

Does this mean that Dundjinni versions of classic AD&D maps are also off
limits? Such as The ToEE or Barrier Peaks? What about maps of
Waterdhavian locales and streets? Is the agreement between Fluid and
Hasbro lenient enough to allow such works?

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Posted: 01/27/2005 at 7:21am | IP Logged Quote Cecil

Not my decision on this one--just passing on what I've read in earlier posts.

Bottom line: Fluid does not want to deal with the potential problems of reproduced maps (even if they are of your interpretation).

Some areas that have been acceptable: A spin-off map of an area (they never found this level) or a map based on a written description.

I'll contact JT and see if I can add the original (or this summary) to the FAQ.

On the other hand, I'm very interested in the objects you are designing. And I apologise for being the bearer of bad news.
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Posted: 01/27/2005 at 7:51am | IP Logged Quote GroovyDave

Not at all. Think nothing of it. I can always distribute the Falcon map
privately, just as I am doing with some of the ships. I'm just curious what
is allowed and what is not.

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Posted: 02/02/2005 at 7:42am | IP Logged Quote GroovyDave

I've done a little web research on copyright, and I see that only the
copyright holder has the right to allow derivative works, although fair use
provides for some leniency. That said, I think we're correct in not posting
re-interpreted maps, unless they are completely original. I can see where
Fluids lawyers are coming from on this. It's definately a shame, I think it's
a bit stifling, but perhaps forcing artists to come up with wholly new
concepts is a good thing. As far as these objects are concerned, the only
one that was actually seen in the films is the holochess table, and I'll leave
that up to the moderators to decide wheter to keep or not. It's not from a
photo, although I emulated the basic design from what I could see in the
movie. I think the movie version was black and chrome, but I thought the
white would show up better on a map. My other concern is the weapons
(different thread). Although I used Photoshop to create these, I did work
from photos of replicas. Whether this counts as fair use or not, I don't
know.

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Posted: 02/02/2005 at 3:26pm | IP Logged Quote slashdevnull

The holochess tables shouldn't be a problem. And, as far as I can tell, blaster pistols and evne lightsab... er, "laser swords" shouldn't be a problem, either. These things have become more or less generic items of the sci-fi genre.
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